In this edition of our podcast, we talk to the renowned influencer and campaigner Liz Sayce about her exceptional career and her passion for equality and human rights.Liz shares her personal experience of managing a mental health condition and the insight that this has provided in her role as a campaigner.Liz reflects on the seven years she spent working for the mental health charity MIND and the knowledge she gained from her trip to the US where she examined the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act. (ADA)We reflect on her time as Director of Policy and Communications at the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) and subsequently her role as the CEO of RADAR and Disability Rights UK.In addition to her "day jobs," she is a prolific writer and her books, papers and articles have examined mental health issues and more recently focused on the thorny problems relating to employment and career development challenges for disabled people. She is currently based at the London School of Economics (LSE) and discusses her recently published report "Switching Focus" which describes a four-point plan designed to improve disabled people's employment and pay.Find the time to take a listen you will not be disappointed.A full transcript of our conversation is available [here.](http://bit.ly/2TNoKw6)We’d love to hear from you, email us philandsimonshow@gmail.com or send a message via Facebook or Twitter. If you’d like to review us on iTunes or Audioboom that would be amazing.